RE: Porsche 718 Boxster/Cayman Touring spied

RE: Porsche 718 Boxster/Cayman Touring spied

Thursday 9th May

Porsche 718 Boxster/Cayman Touring spied

The GT3 Touring formula proved popular for the 911, so here it is again for the GT4 Cayman!



So the six-cylinder Porsche saga rolls on. While rumours continue about just what form the next GT4 and Boxster Spyder might take, here we are already find ourselves with what seem to be the Touring variants.

Given Dr Frank Walliser described the uptake for the 911 GT3 Touring package as "unbelievable", it should come as little surprise that the same template is being followed for the smaller Motorsport car. Especially when you bear in mind that 70 per cent of GT3s in the US have been manuals - buyers have emphatically shown what kind of Porsche GT cars they like. So Porsche is going to make some more.


Like the 911 Touring, the Boxster and Cayman equivalents - as can be seen here - are less aggressive models than the fully fledged GT. While the exhausts and diffusers are familiar from other GT4 and Spyder test prototypes, the rear wings are quite modest and the bodykits less racy. They aren't far off looking like regular Caymans and Boxsters with six-cylinder engines, really, which will surely have appeal to those who find the GT cars a bit overt. There are still ceramic brakes here, though.

Interestingly, our spy photographer suggests that these Touring models may have less power than the GT4 and Speedster; the 911 Touring uses the same 500hp engine as any other GT3. It would certainly ensure some seniority for the non-Touring cars, if Porsche has a desire to keep the models more separate.


We're still none the wiser, however, as to what those power outputs might actually be, what the engine is and when buyers might get hold of one. Surely it can't be that far off now, though. And what a choice to have to make: more six-cylinder noise with a Boxster, or ever-so-slightly sharper dynamics with the Cayman? Full Motorsport vibe with a GT, or a more relaxed road-racer look with the Touring? Decision time!




 

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GroundEffect

Original Poster:

11,332 posts

97 months

Thursday 9th May
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Oh god Spyder Touring please get me one now.

cmoose

44,343 posts

170 months

Thursday 9th May
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Most of the rumours have these things branded 718 Boxster and Cayman '6' rather than 'Touring'. Don't think they are 'Touring' models, but they are apparently six cylinder.

These would fit into Blume's mooted new third pillar of 'lifestyle' sports cars, where the mainstream sports cars and the GT cars are the other two pillars. The 911 Speedster would also be a 'lifestyle' model, albeit the hardware there is pinched from the GT department.

Having less power than the GT4 / Spyder would thus make sense. It's not a GT4 Touring. It's a separate thing. A 718 6.

Edited by cmoose on Thursday 9th May 13:00

3rd

6 posts

9 months

Thursday 9th May
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cmoose said:
Most of the rumours have these things branded 718 Boxster and Cayman '6' rather than 'Touring'. Don't think they are 'Touring' models, but they are apparently six cylinder.

These would fit into Blume's mooted new third pillar of 'lifestyle' sports cars, where the mainstream sports cars and the GT cars are the other two pillars. The 911 Speedster would also be a 'lifestyle' model, albeit the hardware there is pinched from the GT department.

Having less power than the GT4 / Spyder would thus make sense. It's not a GT4 Touring. It's a separate thing. A 718 6.

Edited by cmoose on Thursday 9th May 13:00
Is that an admission that the change to 4 cylinders was a mistake?

cmoose

44,343 posts

170 months

Thursday 9th May
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3rd said:
Is that an admission that the change to 4 cylinders was a mistake?
Could be seen that way to an extent, perhaps.

But the broader picture is a shift to electric powertrains. So whatever it is, it's a short term blip of almost no consequence. You may not be able to buy a combustion car of any kind at all from Porsche by, say, 2030. If so, any controversy today over reintroducing a flat six into the Cayster for a few years will be meaningless at that point.

elisered

30 posts

23 months

Thursday 9th May
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The “Spyder” in these pictures has a normal Boxster roof....
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Mackofthejungle

822 posts

136 months

Thursday 9th May
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cmoose said:
3rd said:
Is that an admission that the change to 4 cylinders was a mistake?
Could be seen that way to an extent, perhaps.

But the broader picture is a shift to electric powertrains. So whatever it is, it's a short term blip of almost no consequence. You may not be able to buy a combustion car of any kind at all from Porsche by, say, 2030. If so, any controversy today over reintroducing a flat six into the Cayster for a few years will be meaningless at that point.
I dunno, if I've been told anything by the news it's that the changing of anyone's mind, ever, is a sign of weakness and must be criticised. The mind-changer must then be insulted and laughed at for an indeterminate period of time.

Porsche will therefore do the "right" thing - keep pushing forward and never admit anything.

Well done modern society.

Nerdherder

616 posts

38 months

Thursday 9th May
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I’d shake the money tree for a Cayman 6 ‘Touring’.’

Sandpit Steve

155 posts

15 months

Friday 10th May
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3rd said:
Is that an admission that the change to 4 cylinders was a mistake?
That’s certainly one way of thinking about it. Reports are that sales were well down of the new 4-cylinder versions, after pretty much every journo on the planet panned the new engines when compared to the old ones.

I’ll put my money where my mouth is, if they bring the 6 back.

ian in lancs

3,311 posts

139 months

Friday 10th May
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Sandpit Steve said:
I’ll put my money where my mouth is, if they bring the 6 back.
ditto

FN2TypeR

5,985 posts

34 months

Friday 10th May
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ian in lancs said:
Sandpit Steve said:
I’ll put my money where my mouth is, if they bring the 6 back.
ditto
yes as would I. Yes please!

Woodstock10

1 posts

36 months

Friday 10th May
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1 was told informally that 1200 6c caysters would be introduced by the end of 2019.. watch this space

aelord

265 posts

166 months

Friday 10th May
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You hardly ever see a 4 cyl Cayster on the road - reckon they have been a disaster sales-wise.

thelostboy

3,312 posts

166 months

Friday 10th May
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Same. A deserved failure! Hope they make amends.

400SE Dave

1,216 posts

112 months

Friday 10th May
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ian in lancs said:
Sandpit Steve said:
I’ll put my money where my mouth is, if they bring the 6 back.
ditto
It will likely be a turbo 6 though and not the NA one of previous though won't it. Was it not reported somewhere that the previous NA 6 did not meet the latest emissions targets???

Twinfan

3,630 posts

45 months

Friday 10th May
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It's rumoured that these cars are the Cayman 6 and Boxster 6 and will use a (detuned?) version of the 4.0ltr NA flat six engine that will appear in the upcoming 718 GT4 and 718 Spyder. That engine will be fully Euro 6 compliant.

AmosMoses

3,219 posts

106 months

Friday 10th May
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Gotta love Porsche only they can axe and old engine layout then bring it back as a "Special Model"

JAhmed

30 posts

30 months

Sunday 12th May
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400SE Dave said:
It will likely be a turbo 6 though and not the NA one of previous though won't it. Was it not reported somewhere that the previous NA 6 did not meet the latest emissions targets???
Turbo 6 from the 991 does not fit in the 982 chassis